Are Asians The Only Rude People?

How hard is it to teach politeness? Better yet, is it possible to train someone to be polite? The first question was intended to children as the subject. Should it mainly be the parents’ responsibility or could we rely on teachers to inject some politeness booster to the young ones? The second question was more aimed to adults. Is it doable to have an impolite person live with a polite family for a number of years, hoping for this person to change for the good? 

I also understand that politeness and the opposite -rudeness- belong to all skin color. Everytime I hear somebody said, “Asians are rude!”, my nose would fringed. Stereotyping a certain race really shows your narrowmindedness. Yes, my fellow Indonesians back home tend to unable to grasp the concept of ‘waiting in line’ or holding the door for elderly or women. While you’re waiting patiently in line for the cashier in a very nice department store, instead of waiting behind you, a lady ignorantly cut the line and stand in front of you. That is rude. But what about Americans who switched lane without signaling and got really close in front of your car? You slammed the brake and honked, then you got a middle finger flipped at you. That is rude, too. And what about the French who let their poodles poop all over the street? Oui oui… that iz rude!

Just recently, an unpleasant encounter at work was like a slap in the face. There were a 17-year-old Chinese boy and his father who caused a scene in the clinic’s waiting room. Long story short, the hot argument involved miscommunication between the father and us about the checking-in policy; added by a disrespectful attitude from the US-born teenager.

Boy: “So how long should I wait, again?”
Beth (52 y.o. receptionist): “As soon as one exam room is open, a nurse will take you back.”
Boy: “Well duh…” *smirked, turned his back and walked away* “I know that.”
Me (already boiling from previous argument): “Whoa… wow! Excuse me?”

… and the rest was even uglier. I was really surprised to see the teenager was disrespectful to someone who’s older. His intimidating body language and smart ass remarks were really uncalled for. And the sad thing was, his father let him get away with it. Supportive, even. I guess no parents like to hear [from a stranger] that their kid has an attitude, or a brat, even if it really is a fact. I had to call my department manager out to settle things down. But they were beyond consoling. A nurse finally took the teenager to see the doctor. Fifteen minutes later, they both walked out without saying anything.

Another patient (a ‘regular’) came up to us and said, “Wow! I feel so sorry for you guys. I thought Orientals are nice and pleasant. They were  rude.”

That comment hit me. I remeber a while ago, a 22 year old coworker said that Asian drivers are rude. Yeah… unfortunately we all hear about the stereotype ‘bad Asian women driver’. Other coworker told a story about her Asian apartment neighbor who would cook something ’smelly’ and shared the unpleasant aroma (to the Americans) around. “That’s very rude.”

Are Asians really rude? Is it possible because Asians lack the social skill expected in this country? My other thought was, probably because Asians are not used to it. Try to live in a city with 11 million population for a while; and hopefully you’d understand why we tend to hurry and forgetting our manners to hold the door for you, or formally say “Good morning. How are you? Same here. May I have the tall latte, please?” when ordering Starbucks along with the other twelve people behind me.

I’ve only been here for 8 years, yet my expectation has now been switched to the ‘American way’. Sometimes I hated it, because I got so frustrated easily when I go back home to Jakarta and unconciously expect everybody to be ‘polite’. But having stayed in the US -even if you’re just here studying- doesn’t always guarrantee you’ll be a polite person. I happen to know the owner of the Indonesian restaurant here in Ames. They’ve been here for about 20 years, yet they are borderline in politeness. They can be really rude by asking how much money we make in a year, or asking us to be a business partner and to inject some cash.

Cultural differences, social status, and language barrier are probably the main reasons of why people were called rude or impolite. Also to keep in mind, one’s expectation of politeness is different to the other. While I think it’s a 50:50 chance to ‘train’ somebody to be polite, it’ll be easier to teach politeness from the very young age. Parents, teachers, or daycare providers, are all responsible.

48 comments so far

  1. vita on

    Oh I had an experience that made me boiling too. When we were at thet office to apply my SSN back in December. I sat next to an old lady who was nice and though she didn’t know me and Dan, she still wanted to have a chat with us. And then, an asian lady came with her leather jacket and a designer bag acted like a rich lady walking in to the waiting room, I didn’t really know she was chinese or vietnames or whatever and then she took a sit in front of us. She was taking off her leather gloves whenever the nice old lady asked her in a nice way plus a smile, ” where did you get your gloves? they are nice!”. That Asian lady replied with an unfriendly face and a snobby shrug like no respect at all. Really I swear, Din, I just wanted to kick her effin ugly snobby asian face that time.. Felt like yelling at her, ” come on outside and fight!”.
    Some people just don’t have enough empathy for others!

  2. Anita on

    Can’t say about other Asians but Indonesians are rude.

  3. dinysays on

    @vita: i like to observe the waiting room where there are a mix of race. americans (at least here in the midwest) like to make a small talk, while others (like asians and hispanics) tend to keep stuff to themselves. but that doesn’t mean you have to be rude like that vip lady of yours… ;p

    @anita: read your posting about rude indonesians. i feel your frustration. even before i moved to the u.s., when i was still thinking 100% like indonesians, it was annoying already.

  4. mlim on

    “asking how much money we make in a year, or asking us to be a business partner and to inject some cash”

    duh, bener banget. setiap kali aku datang ke acara2 indonesia, ada aja cewe2 (ibu2) yang nanya (becanda sih, tapi…) “wah, profesor pasti banyak duit ya… berapa sih gajinya kalau boleh tahu… boleh minjam ngga nih…”

    pertama2 kujawab dengan senyum. lama2 aku bilang aja,”Ngga tuh. ngga boleh tahu dan aku ngga suka minjamin duit.”

    rude, rude indonesians!

  5. melly on

    I try for not making stereotype, hard, but have to give the best try. It takes the ability to accept differences and adapt. some will say that attitude as “rude” but some will argue it’s a common thing and normal.

    so: “Stereotyping a certain race really shows your narrowmindedness”

    bener banget.

  6. dinysays on

    @mlim: udah ngalamin itu juga. gw gak tau kalo mereka becanda apa serius. kalo emang becanda, nyelekit juga euy. btw, ibu prof, gw interested untuk pinjaman berkala dong. hiahaiahiah :)

    @melly: now it’s my turn to say ‘bener banget’ at you. that ‘ability’ is really tried with my fellow indonesians, mostly. sometimes my patience is so low, abd by ‘patience’ i mean either cigarettes or prozac :p

  7. therry on

    I’m sorry to say, but only Asians seem to stare at people. I mean REALLY staring, like the once-over, up and down then up again kind of look, even though the person they’re staring are AWARE that they are being stared at, they still stare as if it’s perfectly acceptable!!

    I don’t know why but this happens to me A LOT I often checked my clothes and whether or not my fly is unzipped!

    Why do they do that?? Why?? And it’s even more odd that I seem to get it more from girls than guys!

    Maybe there are a lot of Indonesian lesbians that we are not aware of? Cuz you know … maybe I’m like, really really hot for their standards or something muekekeke ….

  8. therry on

    I’m sorry to say, but only Asians seem to stare at people. I mean REALLY staring, like the once-over, up and down then up again kind of look, even though the person they’re staring are AWARE that they are being stared at, they still stare as if it’s perfectly acceptable!!

    I don’t know why but this happens to me A LOT I often checked my clothes and whether or not my fly is unzipped!

    Why do they do that?? Why?? And it’s even more odd that I seem to get it more from girls than guys!

    Maybe there are a lot of Indonesian lesbians that we are not aware of? Cuz you know … maybe I’m like, really really hot for their standards or something muekekeke ….

  9. dinysays on

    @therry: omg, how could i forget that? the starring… yeap… hello? like, i know you’re starring at me… you want a piece of this? *touch hip with one finger* hot!! pssss!!

  10. therry on

    LOL

    Yea man. Like, “I’d tear your ass up, beyatch!”

  11. therry on

    omg I just realised I’d posted the first comment twice!

    sorry, my bad..

  12. the writer on

    Here, the locals are the rude ones when you compare it to the Asians who also live here.

    Like what you wrote in your post, it’s their kids who yell at their parents and could get away with it, meanwhile the Asian kids (usually) still know how to keep their voice down even though they are arguing with their parents.

    But maybe you meant different things such as rules and regulations that the Indonesians (in particular) are not used to, such as waiting in line and stuff (here, everybody, Asians or not, apparently grasp the idea to do so, even though they came from China, a land where waiting in line is considered a waste of time :P

    And yes, Indonesians are rude when it comes to asking questions to somebody they don’t know (that well). Like “ooh you’re gaining weight now!” or “When are you getting married?” and giving that “look” while asking so.

    But I seriously think that the Indonesians way of raising kid/upbringing (in old fashioned way) is the best. That’s just my opinion though, because we were taught to respect our parents and so on, although we might learn how to control our mouth and learn how to step aside when the elevator door opens (for example)…..but then again, it is just probably my parents who rocks in their way of raising kids….hehehe….just kidding

  13. dinysays on

    @the writer: I do think it’s the cultural differences, more likely the expectation of one’s politeness. Like my family (ahem!), your family did awesomely raising the kids to be polite, especially to elderly. But I guess, raising your kids to be polite is not for every body?

    Btw, very well though opinion and thanks for your time writing it :)

  14. David on

    I am a Chinese living i Hong kong. I agree with you that Asian people are rude when compare to westerners( such as British , canadian , american). Japanese people are the most polite people when compare to other asians such as chinese and Korean. It is because western countries and Japan are rich countries so people in there can be well – educated. Also, the social welfare in Japan and western countries are good. Other Asian countries do not have good welfare becasue the countries are poor. So the people do not receive well educated. And they have to survive by working. If they( Asian ) quit the job, they would not have income or salary that support their live. Asian not only rude to foreigners , they also rude to their own people.
    In conclusion, westerners and Japanese people are just like gentleman.
    Asian people are just like beast.

    • mischa on

      are you seriously that stupid?

      “In conclusion, westerners and Japanese people are just like gentleman.
      Asian people are just like beast.”

      since when was japanese people not asian? you idiot

      • David on

        I mean Asian people( such as Chinese, Korean and Indonesian) are rude( except Japanese).

  15. lulz on

    Asians seem to be snobby probably cuz they are clannish people (hang around families a lot and do not accept others) but there are a few exceptions. The asians with the pale skin and small eye appearance tend to be snobbish and the asians with wide, sometimes green/grey eyes (Indians) can be just plain rude. I’m half asain half black but some asians are not so bad. I’ve met happy go lucky ones but I find my best best friend to be snobbsh and always stress that she is filipino. Everyone has their own personality and if we all say asians are rude people then that would probably just be stereotyping.

  16. Marc on

    I have a question. Why is it that white people who hate blacks, whether in a subliminal manner in the coporate american society, or open hostility in the south and midwest, but just seem to be so fond of asains? I mean from all the massive asian & white couples that exist to the prodominently white suburban neighborhoods (who by the way they get unconfortable whenever one black person is in their neighborhood) but seem to have a fair amount of asians living in their community. The many many many white couples who always want to adopt these chinese children. What is their fasination with asains? Because if their anybody who is primitive and lacks manners it not black people as a majority it these people.

  17. jongwoon123 on

    Hi I’m Brittany, Back in my Junior year in High School 2003,

    I met some Asian friends and they were rude to me. I met a Viet-American named Kevin Do, He started frowning at me when I was introducing myself, I kept saying hi to him everyday and he starts running away from me when I was ready to give him my e-mail, He keeps running away from me every time he sees me, so chased him to get him to talk to me, I said can I write him a letter, “LEAVE ME ALONE!!!” I should’ve broke his damn legs or maybe slap the hell out of him. It’s so rude when people running off on me like that.

    so, I met some Korean guys friends, I was asking questions to Minho so I can get to know him better, get got mad at me and “I’M NOT YOUR FRIEND!!” damn, for what?!?!. I should’ve put him in a head lock and strangle him. When I called his house phone, I just called him without asking him cuz he said no, He only give to his Korean friends, When I called him, his mom picked up the phone and told me he wasn’t there and she just said “HEY!! STOP CALLING MINHO!!” uhhh, she doesn’t know me? I wanted slap the crap out of her. I don’t care if she’s Minho’s mom.

    When i was tickling my korean guy friends, they just told their parents on me and threatened to sue me and my mom. over a effing tickling?! haha! that’s a joke.

    I met some other asian friends, some are from Vietnam, China, and Korea. I just asked them for their phone number,email address, and home address, they just gave me the wrong information just because want to keep in contact with them so I can hang out with them. They got me stalking them cuz I was looking for ther right information, they think I’m crazy. Every time I call them, they’ll just hang up on me while I’m talking to them, they tell me not to call them anymore, and they change phone numbers. Minho’s mom just cussed me out and said ” ses ses bitch!” Everytime I call Minho, the only thing he says is “Fuck You”
    I found his Cyworld too, I left a very nice message, He just said the same thing. So Maybe I was being too nice to him then.

    My teachers, Ms. Watson and Mrs. Balagtas ( She’s phillino)
    let their black students sexually harass me just because I was messing around Asian guys. They were driving me crazy thru 11th grade. They were calling names and telling me to shut up, telling me to sit down my ass down when I was getting my binder, they called me steve erkel (from Family Matters). That just made me very angry. The teachers told them to follow me around campus so they can make my friends not be my friend and they made them not want to talk to me anymore so I don’t have any friends to hang out with cuz of them. I cussed them out on myspace cuz they made my life miserable. I’m evil now cuz I know what mean people are doing behind my back.

    My sister told her friends to follow me around the school so they can listen to my conversation with my Korean guy friends and they told her what I said them. That was non of their damn business and it’s non of my sister’s business either.

    Mrs. Balagtas been telling all my asian friends something bad about me every time she follows me, making them scared of me and made them not want to talk to me. I wanted to blow her damn head off. She got them running off on me, screaming at me and ignoring me. She’s talks too much. Even her students talk too much. She got alot of my asian friends’ parents calling my mom and cussing her out talking about “tell her to stop calling here!!!” well maybe was being to damn nice to Asian people then!!!!!!

    My other snoppy vietnamese friend, Name Auco, pulled a prank on me after she gave me her right, I asked her for her e-mail, She gave me the wrong one. Everytime I ell her to pick me up, she don’t pick me up. Everytime I called her, She doesn’t pick up the phone. all of her friends and cousins pretended to Papa John’s, I heard, them laughing at me, I heard her cousin Tan, in a low voice and said “this is Papa John’s, may I help you?” I hear them clanking dishes, water running, talking, music playing and a fan was on and pretending it’s the Papa John

    • David on

      As I am Hong Kong Chinese, I also agree with you that Asian( such as Vietnamese, Indonesian, Chinese and Korean)appear to be rude from westerner’s view and in western standard.

      Japanese is the exception( they are the most polite Asian when compare to indonesian, Korean, Chinese and Vietnamese).

      • David on

        If you do not have good relationship with Indonesian, Vietnamese,Chinede and korean.
        You can try to make friends with Japanese.It is because they will talk to you nicely and have good manner.

    • dinysays on

      I am Indonesian. Even when I was still living in Indonesia for the first 28 years of my life, I experienced some rudeness from my fellow Indonesians and Chinese, as Chinese is also a big population in my country.
      Sorry about your bad experience with your Asian friends, sounded so horrible. It’s so weird that your Asian friends were acting like they’re the minority and almost like a bully by calling you names etc. You are talking about Junior High in the US, right?

  18. jongwoon123 on

    Sorry about that. Pretended to to the Papa John’s Restaurant.
    at Lunch, They asked me “Why are u sitting here?” “why don’t you sit with someone else?” I should’ve said “why don’t YOU shut the f up and go back where the f u came from?!” other Asian ppl I don’t know were cussing me out online and being rude to me. They block me from contacting them and emailing them.

    My sister told her Vietnamese friend told fake and lie to me. His name is Tan Tran (not Auco’s cousin, the other one). When I met him, I said “hi, my name is Brittany, nice to meet you” He said “I’m Yohan” and he said another name the second name I saw him and he said “I’m pierre” My sister lied to me and said he was Dominican. Yohan and Pierre are the names from Dragon Ball Z. She made some new African Exchange act crazy on me, Her name is Meme, When I asked her can I use her cell phone, She said she didn’t have it with her, Before I asked her for it, I just saw her with her cell phone, I told her and said ” I saw you using it” She just said “WELL YOU CAN’T USE IT THEN!!!” I don’t even effing know her like that!! well maybe I was being too friendly to my sister’s friends then. When I go to college, I’m gonna treat them bad like they treated me in high school. Koreans like me when I speak Korean to them. That’s why I’m moving to Seoul, and would rather hang out with my favorite Korean celebrities and ignore the ppl I hate then.

    Last time When I met a co-worker, Long Do, he’s 64, I said happy birthday, Long, He started ignoring me,. I said “LONG, LONG!!” He just said”OKOK!!!” I should’ve took the broom out of his hand and hit him on his head real hard>:).
    I never said happy birthday to him again.

    My other sweetest Co-worker Susan from NC, She’s white, She said that Asian people aer trying to get me and my mom in trouble. This is the first time I ever heard about this
    I felt so stupid when I heard that Asians are rude.

    That’s why I’m moving to Seoul in June to get away from here. In college, I’m gonna lie and fake and give them fake information so they can feel stupid and confused. My Korean guys friend, Hong Joon(Kevin Im) told his parents to come to my classroom after he asked me were my classes are and I think I gave these ppl too much information.

  19. jongwoon123 on

    Every time tell people that I’m interested in Asian culture, they make fun of me and sexually harass me too much. Well Maybe I should keep my life private then. Asian people always say “you’re bothering me” “I don’t wanna talk to you” yeah yeah whatever.

    • David on

      what kind of Asian culture are you interested, Chinese, Korean or Japanese culture?

    • David on

      I thought that westerner ( mainly white people) very care about their privacy but you are the exception.

  20. Bob on

    I find they are rude to anyone but their own culture. They can make racist comments toward white people but the minute you say you dont like something about their culture, they say its racist.

    Ive also noticed that if you are white, they are more apt to try to rip you off and take advantage of you. I, unfortunately will no longer shop at any asian owned store. I would rather spend the extra dollar, than have to worry about my product being real, or contaminated with lead/melamine. For this same reason, I refuse to buy my products at Walmart. You’d be hardpressed to find anything made in North America there.

    • David on

      It is because in the past( from 19th centuary to early half of 20th centuary), most of the Asian countries( such as China, Indonesian,Vietnam, Korea) were being part of European and Japanese colonies.

      So Asian don’t like white people, it is similar as black people don’t like white people.

      • dinysays on

        David, that is true. When a white person made a negative comment about an Asian, not necessarily something racist -let’s say it’s something about bad hair do- the Asian person would still think the white person is being racist. And like you said… it’s just like Black and White thing.

  21. David on

    As I am Hong kong Chinese, I can say that Asian have polite and rude type. Asians who are nice ,pleasant and polite are Japanese. Asian which is non- japanese( such as chinese, korean, south east asian,etc.) are rude.

    From westerners view, Japanese are polite, other asian ( non- japanese)are rude. Non- Japanese asians are rude because to them it is the cultural thing. Also, to them it is honest and straight forward.

    other reasons is in general westerners and Japanese are well educated, so they are polite.non- Japanese asian are not well educated , so they are rude.

    • Ivan on

      What? you thinks chinese are rude i don’t….. well im a chinese and im kind to other also not all krean jap and chinese are rde and not all are kind, please you can’t judge other culture and some american are rude too becuase your hurting other people feeling by saying there culture are stupid or whatsoever!

      • Ivan on

        and yes you hurt my feeling by saying that (-_-) so one chance saying other nasty impolite thing and hurting feeling im gonna hurt your feeling right back it a good one english is so freakin easy chinse is freakin hard I’ve tried it befor
        can you sove it?: (AB=BC=?)
        and chinese writing 你是不能单人! 我麻油…..see they made it hard so it like a challenge and so it keep your brain going so your smart nobody want to try easy stuff
        like the american so it stop you brain so it not working whiich it make you hardr to think or do math and other like writting

        (AB=2cm=?)

  22. David on

    I agree that non- Japanese asian are rude. I am a polite one.

  23. Cyn on

    But chinese people a really rude. On the bus the other day this asian guy just started pushing me because I slowputting my bus ticket in the reader. What I have noticed is that rude Asians take advantage of the good nature of Australian people. They must think we are docile or something.

    • mischa on

      not all chinese people are rude. dont you think its rude to stereotype chinese people? i bet you dont even know the difference between a chinese person and a japanese

  24. White on

    White people are the rudest race.

  25. dinysays on

    @White: …and the White people thinks otherwise. They think Asians are…

  26. Ozzie on

    You will find that most Asians are considered rude by our standards but their actions are socially acceptable by theirs. I find it fascinating and join in when I visit their countries. It is great to lose all these social etiquetes that I have learnt over the years and let loose for a couple of weeks. No please, no thankyou, no lining up etc being larger than the average asian person, it is great to push your way to the front of the line…..as they say, when in rome ….

  27. Ally on

    As someone who is neither white (well, technically I am, but European whites beg to differ) nor Asian (at least not East Asian), I have to agree with the premise in this article that Asian people are rude. They are so curt and way too direct. And if you misunderstand them due to their accents, they try to blame it on you. And they are so pushy. I was in a large crowd once with a bunch of South Koreans behind me and they were pushing us up against the raling in front of the stage. It was dangerous, in fact, they they didn’t care. I find black people to be 10 times friendlier, and maybe even more so than whites…especially Southern blacks. They are raised with a lot of manners. In fact, all Southerners are. Hmm, maybe I should move there lol.

  28. Turike on

    Talk about politeness, you should see these people here in Singapore! They are impolite, rude, no respect to privacy AND racist, especially towards ‘Indonesians’ But not all Asians are impolite. Japanese are nice. Indonesians lack in manner, but are friendly. My Korean friends are always nice, at least to me. But malays, chinese, Indian, SINGAPOERANS? Humm….

    • David on

      As I am Hong Kong Chinese,I agree with you that Japanese are much more polite and nicer than Chinese, Korean and south east asians.

      It is a cultural thing. In Japanese culture, people tend to be polite. In Chinese or south east asian culture, people tend to be rude. It is their pattern. To them it is normal.

      • dinysays on

        There lies the misunderstanding problem. Like David said: “To them it is normal”. To some Asians (let’s say group A), it’s normal to not hold the door for somebody else. It’s normal to just grab the Frappucino and walk away without saying thank you. Other culture who’s taught the other way around (let’s say group B), would label A rude when they don’t do so while living in B’s country.

  29. dinysays on

    @ozzie: i like your sarcasm… why bother saying please and thank you while others don’t do it, right?

    @ally: ‘curt’ is the word i was looking for ;)

    @turike: ‘humm’? please elaborate :p

    • David on

      In Chinese , Korean and south east asian culture, Asians don’t say please, sorry and thank you. It is because it is their cultural thing.

      In Japanese culture, Japanese are very polite. They always say please , sorry and thank you.It is similar as in the west. They also say sorry to bring trouble to someone. They also say I hope other people can forgive me.

  30. David on

    I think that westerners should go to Japan , not other asian countries such as China, Korea, India and south east asian countries.It is because Japanese are much more polite and nicely than Chinese, Korean, south east Asian and indian.

    • dinysays on

      Ummm… I disagree. Why limiting yourself to only visit ‘polite’ country? Heck… going to some ‘rude’ countries is the best adventure ever. Just make sure to leave your expectancy at the lowest and go with the flow.

  31. David on

    when westerners go to Japan, they would find out that Japanese are polite as them , or even more politer than westerners.

  32. Tom on

    I used to work with chinese people and they would NEVER offer to say ‘hello’ to me. It was ALWAYS me that had to say it. Otherwise they would just walk past me as I didn’t exist. In the end I just didn’t bother and kept to myself. To hell with them.


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